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Is age just a number...
I was thinking today about this. Is age a number... With the increase of online dating a person is judged by categories not by the whole package.

Used to be guys like Sean Connery and others were cool and set the standard way into there 50's.

40's also used to be the prime for men... It was the time when you Could fuck a colege girl or girl your own age...

Now we have Viagra and test for guys that aren't manly enough anymore because they poison their bodies...

Anyway for me 40 isn't bad... I have aged a little in my face... Have some grey hair... But it hides well. I have really good skin which helps. I eat organic and am super fit... Also still pop wood the same as my late 20's... But I take care of myself. Only drink heavy two or three times a year and besides that maybe 3 or 4 beers a year... And some wine... Alcohol really fucks with your hormone production.


I also find in person women are much more receptive then online. They see the whole package as opposed to seperate pieces. My dads wife was 22 years younger then him and he could have traded her in on a younger one if he wanted.

So I guess what I am saying is 40 and beyond can be pretty good if you plan for it... But you need to plan...

Any thoughts?
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RE: Is age just a number...
28 is the GOAT age for attraction. Young enough to attract 18 year olds and old enough to attract 35 year old cougars.

At 40 a man starts to decline. 50's is a mans last hurray. 60's and shit is over. Hello grandpa years.

40+ is not attracting 18-22 year olds (for the most part) without some extra incentive of money, gifts, prestige, etc.

I am about to hit 30 and it is depressing to think half of my life is already over.
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RE: Is age just a number...
(03-17-2015, 10:29 AM)Dash Global Wrote: 28 is the GOAT age for attraction. Young enough to attract 18 year olds and old enough to attract 35 year old cougars.

At 40 a man starts to decline. 50's is a mans last hurray. 60's and shit is over. Hello grandpa years.

40+ is not attracting 18-22 year olds (for the most part) without some extra incentive of money, gifts, prestige, etc.

I am about to hit 30 and it is depressing to think half of my life is already over.

I agree late twenties is easily the best age. In fact, it's easy mode. You're way more experienced than younger guys, have more money, and you still look 'young'.

I'm early thirties and though it isn't a major difference, it's clear to me that I get less approach invitations out at night from younger girls. It's just a question of having to work for it a bit harder, I rarely get a bad reception with young girls when I approach, but their mindset is definitely more tuned in to younger guys. Not a big deal, but lets be honest it is there.

I hate to say it, but hair matters in this regard. If you have good hair, then I doubt it matters much if you're 30 or 40. Balding and having receding hairline really brings way too many 'old guy' associations for 18-23 year old girls. Shave it off, get ripped, dress well and bring your a-game. Of course, now that I'm slightly older I get crazy interest from the mid to late women looking to settle down, but I've never dated a girl older than 25 and don't plan on doing so for the considerable future. Not due to being a great player, but women go donwnhill fast after that. It's also funny how I can usually guess a girl between 18-25 age to the exact age, but late twenties or mid thirties, I have no clue, they're not on my radar, I find it hard to guess their age.
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RE: Is age just a number...
It depends on the individual but yeah I think 27-28 is the absolute best like Scandinavia bro said young and old love you.
People like Jack Lalaneand Bernard Hopkins make aging look easy. I think doing fitness enjoy and eating really strict is best. Personally, I hate the same workout routines so I mix it up for cardio from swimming, heavy bag work, dance classes, cycling, and even basketball. I hate doing the same routine all the time. Lifted is different outside of barbells and Dumbbells and the squat, military press, deadlift, bench, and pull-ups or back rows- what else is there? I feel best when Instick to grilled meats, and veggies as most everything else is garbage for my system.
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RE: Is age just a number...
I read in one of paulo coelhos books that men peak in looks around 34, where as women peak around 22. Women def start going downhil im already seeing it in girls my mates have married or their girlfriends.
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RE: Is age just a number...
Dash I am not so sure about the 40 not attracting 18 to 22 year olds. I think it depends on how you look at 40... I don't have prestige come on I am 40 and barely crack 100k a year. But still when I go out it is the college age girl that flirts with me at the bar.... Now I will say this... 2 years ago a 30 to 40 year old woman didn't pay me much attention.... Now they flirt like they might have a chance. That actually scares me...

That p90x guy looks 40 and he is like 55 or something...

I have a friend at work that's 63. He is being chased by a 25 year old like crazy. Now she is a honest 5 ... Slightly heavy but a great face... He is also over weight and not crazy attractive. But he has this over the top personality and does everything in excess...

My dad was just intense and inteligent... Women loved him for his wit and they way he made them feel.

I will say this... Girls I use to think were not worth banging I consider worth it now...

So I think you need looks and something else...charisma or something when you hit 40 and beyond...

Anyway at 40 I can still go into a local bar or one in Eastern Europe and be one of the better looking guys and if it's the beach ... Then I get to take my shirt off and honestly that takes many years off...

At 30 girls came up to me and made themselves availble. At 40 they smile and expect me to go to them... Still not bad but I sure am wondering about 50...

Genetics helps though... I still pass for early 30's and my 43 year old sister still occasionally gets told she is in her late 20's

And tideride... Bernard Hopkins doesn't count... Black don't crack...lol

I have always looked young though... When I was 28 I was a high school math teacher. I would get harassed by campus security ... They thought I was a student out of class.

Here is the shitty thing about 40... Even if you look good you just get fucking tired. Yawning in the bar at 1:00 am. You can't push it in the gym as hard because you will get fucking hurt like I did to my shoulder when I attmepted to do over 20 pull-ups ...fuck I should have stopped at 18... And if the weather changes hard old injuries really act up... That's the shit that scares me.

Anyway the comments have been interesting. Thanks for the perspectives.







(03-17-2015, 10:29 AM)Dash Global Wrote: 28 is the GOAT age for attraction. Young enough to attract 18 year olds and old enough to attract 35 year old cougars.

At 40 a man starts to decline. 50's is a mans last hurray. 60's and shit is over. Hello grandpa years.

40+ is not attracting 18-22 year olds (for the most part) without some extra incentive of money, gifts, prestige, etc.

I am about to hit 30 and it is depressing to think half of my life is already over.

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RE: Is age just a number...
Age doesn't matter so much in Asia from what I understand. At least you can ride it out in most countries until you're about 50. Then when you hit 50, you can just go to the Philippines lol.

I know guys in real life in their late 20s/almost 30 that fuck 16-17 year old Chinese girls. There was a guy on Roosh that banged young Japanese girls in their early 20s, and I think he was in his 40s. Only country I couldn't see that working in is Korea.. I just can't imagine a 40 year old foreigner fucking 18-22 year old Korean girls, unless he looks young, good looking, and rich.

Chinese girls are apparently dumb too. They guess my age incorrectly and think I'm in my early 20s, even though I personally think I look older than I am. And I definitely don't look early 20s. Anyway, I plan to fake my age as soon as I hit 30. I'll be 25-27 for as long as I can, hopefully until I hit 40. Big Grin

Remember kids, eat lots of green veggies, drink lots of water, avoid the sun, and always wear your sunscreen!
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RE: Is age just a number...
It's all your mindset. Tito Ortiz thought he was invincible until he got his ass beat by the older Randy Coutre:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQc8Ps3Av4A

Granted that's MMA but it's a good comparison. I used to feel old at 24, started balding and after I had broken up with my very first gf of 8 years but little would I know that more than a decade later, I'd be even more bald but I'd still be dating girls her age, haha.

Guys, I'm telling you, you gotta live your life with passion. That's what will keep you young. I'm in the banking and real estate industry and I don't know how many guys my age or older are slow as fuck in their jobs, old thinking, and it's only because of music, traveling, clubbing, chasing young tail, that I still have an edge that keeps me on point to be competitive. If you're not doing anything that you truly love (or at least part of the time), you will age and get older. It's your energy. One of my recent wings is more than a decade younger than me and I can dance longer than him! (to be fair, he's going to law school and stressed out) but do you see the point?

Look at Vov/007, that mofo will never age haha.

Also, be aware of who's in your life and who you're surrounded by. Just today, one of my biz partners started bitching me out and he's a homie and I'm still going to have his back but I also I'm being influenced in a negative way by him. If I allow him to bitch me out, where else in my life will I allow people to bitch me out. Fuck that! So I told him that after a few months, we're gonna go our separate ways. Why is this a big deal? Because he's the one who fronted a lot of cash to start the biz (although I'm the one who has the knowledge so helped him close biz) but even though it's scary, I feel a lot better. Like my mind is clear and I'm happier. Haha, I might have to be an Uber driver to pay bills for a few months but with my new clear mind, I'll be able to close a big deal and pay off the whole shit and take a 3 month vacation as opposed to staying in a negative yet "SAFE" position but in my subconcious, feeling like a little bitch and not going for the big deals, not going for the hottest bitches, not going for the pimpest places.

You only live life once guys, live it with passion.
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Good points fucksong. I have a friend whose wife cheated on him. He divorced but after the new guy left her he let her move back in... He has a daughter with her and it allowed him to see her everyday. The wife had a son with the new guy... He even feels sorry for and helps the son a little... Anyway he is 45.... He's out to eat with his daughter of 6 and meets this 23 year old girl who thinks his daughter is beautiful. Next thing you know...she finds out his story and they are together... And the ex wife now has to put up with having 23 year old fawning over her ex all the time...

Thing to know is this guy isn't week. Won't have anything to do with the ex... But he loves the daughter so much he will tolerate her way more then I would...

Girlfriend is hot... Friend is not... He works hard and it shows. But he's got something.

So I think there is something to what kind of girl you are going after as well... Superficial club girls... Or ones of a little more substance.

They all want something from you.

I fucked this model artist from New York about 5 years ago... I was 36 she was 22. I was the youngest guy she slept with. Lost her vieginity at 17 to one of her mothers same age friends...


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Nice man! 22 year old model artist girl eh? How'd you meet her? (always looking to see how guys find the good ones hahaWink

On one hand, what a lot of the guys on here have said is true, but it's the reality you create for yourself and the meaning you give to it that determines your success. So if in your reality, if you think it's impossible or difficult to attract a younger girl when you're older, guess what? When you actually do meet a young hottie, your brain will not compute that it's possible to date her, thus you either won't try or be able to detect her attraction.

I've said this before but if you want to be buff, you don't ask the fat slob how to work out. You ask, not one but multiple buff, ripped guys what their mindset/opinions are. So if you want to be an older pimp, find several and see what they're doing differently than the 99% of other guys.

Based on what you mentioned about your friend, it sounds like he's a good guy and is willing to put up with a gal who cheated on him for the love of his kids. A high quality guy which a high quality girl recognized (who's probably been with many younger good looking dudes but saw their lack of substance, just guessing)

The part you didn't mention is the exact details of where/how/what he said to hook up with the 23 year old. Is he fashionable? Or at least dress nice? Is he outgoing/funny/serious? I think those details are pretty important although the foundation for him as person was already there.

Interesting thing. And this is just an opinion. My last three exes were all 8-13 years younger than me. And in all cases, it was my character that ultimately either helped me or fucked me up. (I'm not talking about game here as I obviously slept with all of them) but long term wise. Basically, the one who I stayed with for 5 years, I was brutally honest about everything. And she mentioned later on that that was a major reason she stayed with me for a long time. Whereas the other two, I lied about something in the very beginning. So even though sex was good (I'm a perv) and they loved me, my lack of a high value quality character played at least a part in the reasons why those relationships didn't work out. Honesty is hugely important, I think, if you're an older guy wanting to hook up with younger, hotter girls. It helps differentiate you from all the younger guys who are lying left and right just to fuck them.

Ohh! One more recent FR. Just this past Saturday, I got the number of this really cute girl at a starbucks and we got on the topic of what she finds attractive in a guy. She said that initially humour used to get her but the older she gets, TRUSTWORTHINESS is the most important thing cuz her ex cheated on her. Now we all know that what a girl says is usually different from what she's attracted to so I'm not saying to take this verbatim, but if a girl is hot but starting to get older (ex. 24-ish), this type of thing is important unless you enjoy drama and headaches. Otherwise, just be a playa for life.
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Generally speaking, young girls are not interested in older men 40+ from a romantic sexual sense. That is old enough to be their father. Now some guys look 10+ years younger so they are not really applicable. Even then a girl will not be thrilled to find that out and it will put her off.

You put a good looking 25 year old next to a good looking 45 year old and the 18 year old girl is picking the 25 year old every time. Assuming the girl has nothing to gain from the older guy.

Young women get with guys 20+ years their senior for other motives (generally speaking).

If your 40+ you have a much better chance sexually attracting a hot 30 something woman.

I know men don't like to hear stuff like that buts it's the truth. Best to understand the game than lice in a fantasy imo.

Again, yes there are exceptions. But they are exactly that, exceptions

Flame away lol
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About 80% of the women iv shagged have been older than me but I'm 23 I'm sure that will change. Notch count update 134. 35 in the ass.
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It is just a number but at the same time shit gets harder as u get older...it's harder to party..especially consecutive nights..it takes tiem to recover

its harder to lift heavy weights..injuries start setting in..knees/back/shoulders etc

but u should have advantage financially

when ur 50 plus u always got Asia
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I can't seem to get away from Asia. Too easy, too convenient and still so much places I want to go. My next trip is going to be here.
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(03-18-2015, 04:14 PM)Dash Global Wrote: Generally speaking, young girls are not interested in older men 40+ from a romantic sexual sense. That is old enough to be their father. Now some guys look 10+ years younger so they are not really applicable. Even then a girl will not be thrilled to find that out and it will put her off.

You put a good looking 25 year old next to a good looking 45 year old and the 18 year old girl is picking the 25 year old every time. Assuming the girl has nothing to gain from the older guy.

Young women get with guys 20+ years their senior for other motives (generally speaking).

If your 40+ you have a much better chance sexually attracting a hot 30 something woman.

I know men don't like to hear stuff like that buts it's the truth. Best to understand the game than lice in a fantasy imo.

Again, yes there are exceptions. But they are exactly that, exceptions

Flame away lol

Agree and disagree with many of your points.

"Generally speaking" TOTALLY AGREE, thus my point of not being part of the "general" crowd if that makes any sense. This relates to game but basically don't be like everybody else. Be the or shoot for the top 1%, whatever your definition of that may be for yourself and people in general will be drawn to you. You're a good example of someone who has experienced life on your own terms that majority of "general" population will never feel, so that alone makes you unique in many people's eyes, (including dudes, no homo) BE THE EXCEPTION. Like how many dudes have come here based on your previous field reports. That's one example that could be extrapolated on many levels for many things.

As for looking 10 years younger, that is also true. And yes, I do often wear a hat to cover my baldness (until I've gotten sexual or find out they're into hip hop) but you've met me, do I look that young? (if so, thanks man, haha. but i guess disregard the rest of my post) But then, this also relates to the above comment where no matter what age you are, you need to be on top of your shit, health wise. Work out regularly or be active in something. Hike, run, swim, surf. I walk almost an hour everyday to do some groceries and clear my head.

Also, in your comment that girls are not interested in older men 40+, also agree, especially when you lay it down like that, via stats. Thus, I would avoid online game if you're an older dude because girls will judge you on that. However, and keep in mind I'm in sales, you have to develop your pitch and know your target market. What's your pitch? Work out, live life with passion, be on point in everything you do, be smart where you go hunting ala high number of girls you find attractive (ex. Phillipines for you Dash, Ukraine for the recently departed Deb, Tokyo for me) Think outside of the box. Haha, I still remember years ago reading this Yelp review where some guy made a comment that there were Japanese girls at this one particular supermarket and mockingly said that was a good place to meet them. Well, I actually contacted the guy to verify if what he said was true to which he said, "yes, but you must be really stupid to actually meet girls in a supermarket". So I'm pretty sure he's never met chicks there and only checks em out from a distance. Meanwhile I can remember maybe only one day in my whole life in LA, that I ever saw large numbers of Japanese girls since it was a Japan themed night. So whether it be Japanese girls, Russian girls, Swahili girls, etc It's sales 101. Go where your target market is and hit em up there whether it be a specific club, mall, supermarket.

As for putting a younger good looking dude next to an older looking dude, you're coming at it from the perspective of the girl being the chooser, fuck that situation. That's why I stay away from Man Francisco. I'd rather be in situations where there's two 25 year old good looking girls and I'm there with them. (I just remembered last year I was at Magic Mountain with my ex and her friend, both 24, haha) Again, I'm not disagreeing with you, but rather, looking at the situation and figuring out a realistic, practical solution to it.

"other motives" I also agree but the question is what those motives exactly are. And don't we, as guys, also have motives, to fuck? haha.

I used to, REALLY USED TO, have this belief that there were tons of gold diggers out there but in actuality, there aren't as many 100% PURE gold diggers unless the guy is WILLINGLY offering it either due to his insecurity and/or that is the only value he truly feels he has to offer. Now I also know plenty of girls who aren't 100% gold diggers, but rather want to be around someone who has their shit together. I think many of us also feel this way. As an example, Alex just posted up that thread of his success of setting up his business and being location independent and if he lived near me, I might want to buy him a beer and learn from him, not because I want to get his money, but rather I want to surround myself with people who are successful in different areas of life to learn from them. I personally don't think that "motive" is a bad thing. So on the surface, it could come across to many, that girls only want money from rich dudes, but it's more than that, since oftentimes, the rich dudes, at least the self made ones, generally have tight game in all aspects of their life which are attractive qualities.

Lastly, let's not forget that we're a bunch of dudes here and that we're looking at it from a male perspective which is primarily looks based. While girls also are attracted to looks, they are also attracted to other aspects (lucky for us) which are within our control. So it's up to us to change what we can and accept what we can't.

I'll end with some practical advice based on my experience.

Girls who are nearing 25 are more open to meet older guys than say an 18 year old since they've probably fucked a lot of good looking dudes who either cheated on them, were druggies or had nothing else going for them, they're also thinking about what life has in store for them in the future so someone with experience becomes a lot more attractive than someone with no life experience.

Anyways, just sharing my thoughts as you might as well start thinking positive, otherwise, you're just gonna become depressed the older you get guys.

(03-18-2015, 08:17 PM)Angus Young Wrote: It is just a number but at the same time shit gets harder as u get older...it's harder to party..especially consecutive nights..it takes tiem to recover

its harder to lift heavy weights..injuries start setting in..knees/back/shoulders etc

but u should have advantage financially

when ur 50 plus u always got Asia

It doesn't get any easier the older you get so you might as well step up your game NOW. So for example, I used to get high as fuck, take whatever drug was available, when going out to party but now, it's only water, maybe a Red Bull. When I last went to Vegas, I actually took a quick nap before going out to the club. You have to prioritize what your goal is for night. If to party, cool, but then you might not have energy to hunt and be on point later. If it's girls, then eat healthy, drink water, take a nap before hitting the club.

As for lifting weights, maybe try doing other types of exercises, that make you more lean vs buff. Like cardio, say swimming, pushups (instead of weights) and don't laugh, but yoga. FYI - There are tons of hot girls who take yoga classes, all bent over in tight spandex, sweating. Additional FYI - The only reason I took yoga was this Japanese lingerie model who I met via daygame for whatever reason thought I was a yoga teacher the first time we met, so I spent two days researching all I could about yoga, including this one sexual yoga called kudalini yoga, just so I could teach her some basic moves. Haha, i remember bumping 50 cent while showing her the down dog position (it's a real position guys) But bottom line, yoga aint for pussies, that shit works your core and gives you stronger boners I think cuz when I did that shit daily before, I got more boners. Hmmm.. i've been slacking on my health shit.

As for Asia, YES..
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