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Poker 21 Scam : Vietnam
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Poker 21 Scam : Vietnam
Never even heard of this until I read this article

Very crafty!

Don't fall for it.

http://johnnyvagabond.com/featured/poker-scam-saigon/

Comment underneath says "Just to update everyone, as of April, 2012 various Filipino groups are actively doing this scam in both Ho Chi Minh City and Phnom Penh"
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10-19-2016, 11:00 PM
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Fell for it, wasn't even 24 hours in Cambodia. Those guys speak almost flawless english, work in groups and aren't pushy at all. Luckily lost just $80.
10-20-2016, 01:24 AM
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$80 is one month's wages in Cambodia
10-20-2016, 01:33 AM
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They did not drugged my drink, and probably did not follow me once I got out so I was more than happy to exchange 80 bucks for my neck. Still better experience than guided tour with elephants.
10-20-2016, 01:38 AM
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(10-20-2016, 01:38 AM)Herman Wrote: They did not drugged my drink, and probably did not follow me once I got out so I was more than happy to exchange 80 bucks for my neck. Still better experience than guided tour with elephants.

They had their necks on the line not you.

They were actors.

Nobody was gambling losing or winning any real money.

A pretend debt was generated.
10-20-2016, 01:48 AM
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They had their neck on the line? How?

So you think that they were actors working for Mafia group and not just members of the Mafia crew?

Of course nobody was actually playing.

In any case they were safe, Cambodian police would not move a finger to help me in any case if I did not bribe them or something.
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(10-20-2016, 01:54 AM)Herman Wrote: They had their neck on the line? How?

There were breaking the law
10-20-2016, 05:25 PM
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RE: Poker 21 Scam : Vietnam
there is osmething similar in angeles city, trike drivers will be friendly and then ask to stop off at their place... maybe they have offered you a free vip entry to some 'new club' later that night

card game breaks out, if you are an idiot you play, you get an almost unbeatable hand and what do you know your 1 opponent (who you have been told is a very bad 'rich businessman gambler') just happens to beat you

honestly if you are taking detours to random guys homes in SEA you get what you deserve, one trike driver tried to pull it on me once (pretty sure at least, obv i never got in his trike to go check out the 'new bar his brother opened')
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Sure, was stupid enough to fall for it and got what I deserved although it did not come to losing or winning the game.

(10-20-2016, 05:25 PM)JJ Roberts Wrote: There were breaking the law

Yea in Cambodia, pretty sure that If I wanted to kill someone over there, all it would take to get out would be to have couple of hundreds or a grand on me. Easy peasy.
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10-21-2016, 06:20 PM
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(10-20-2016, 11:15 PM)Herman Wrote: Yea in Cambodia, pretty sure that If I wanted to kill someone over there, all it would take to get out would be to have couple of hundreds or a grand on me. Easy peasy.

Yup Cambodia is like the old wild west

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(10-20-2016, 08:11 PM)nomadphilippines Wrote: honestly if you are taking detours to random guys homes in SEA you get what you deserve

I never understood this mindset. Kind, trusting (if perhaps naive) people deserve to be robbed, beat and maybe even killed and the person committing the crime deserves to get off scot free. Makes sense. LOL
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i dont remember saying that anyone deserved to get off scot free...... or beat, or killed.... but ya thats pretty much exactly what i said
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10-22-2016, 02:28 AM
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In Phnom Penh there was an old pinay dude and his daughter who tried this on me at different times in the same area. I knew exactly what was going on the old man had a vibe that was engaging though. Like someone who seemed genuinely warm and interesting.

The girl asked me something ridiculous like out of the blue both ended up with the relative who's a nurse who happens to be working in whatever country you say your from.

Should have tried to bang the female hustler in retrospect.

They have warnings of this scam in a lot of hostels and a few bars.
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10-22-2016, 03:21 AM
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(10-22-2016, 02:28 AM)nomadphilippines Wrote: i dont remember saying that anyone deserved to get off scot free...... or beat, or killed.... but ya thats pretty much exactly what i said

My apologies. I thought English was your first language and that you knew what your phrasing meant and implied. Your English is at that level where there are few enough mistakes that it sounds native but your understanding poor enough that what you say doesn't match your intended meaning. Keep at it and eventually you'll get it!
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