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Do rich, successful, and educated men struggle a lot with women? (discussion)
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Do rich, successful, and educated men struggle a lot with women? (discussion)
I am not talking movie stars, sports stars, and musicians. I am talking doctors, lawyers, engineers, professors, etc.

I talked to a friend not too long ago that told me Engineers, Doctors, Lawyers, and Investment Bankers actually struggle more with women than a working class man does. Now I asked him why and he told me a bunch of stuff that included:

- not enough time to actually game women
- a lot do not have the alpha male personality
- reputation on the line
- miss out on socializing due to being so studious throughout college

THEN IT HIT ME

Now the belief over the internet (not sure if it really holds true in real life) is that Black men are desired by women in America (doesn't hold true here in the south, not sure about other areas). Yet, Asian and Indian men are somehow at the bottom of the barrel (SOMEHOW). On average though, Asian and Indian men make more than all other kinds of men.

Some medical students I have talked to (I want to be a doctor one day and it is looking like I would get there) have really played the nice guy act a lot and have bended over backwards to please a female superior or even a girl in real life.

Now what are your thoughts on the saying that educated men struggle with women?
11-08-2012, 03:48 AM
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I don't get your posts.

"THEN IT HIT ME". What exactly hit you? I was expecting you to describe an epiphany you had and then you go on to describe some shit about race like you do in pretty much all your posts

Can we make a rule that will benefit everyone. For like every 3 threads you start at least 1 has to have absolutely nothing to do with race.

11-08-2012, 03:57 AM
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Agreed.

And even if you think that successfull educated men struggle with women and if that is true its more of a correlation than a causation.

The causation is because they are not putting the effort in and putting themselves out there
11-08-2012, 04:18 AM
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(11-08-2012, 03:57 AM)Rick91 Wrote: I don't get your posts.

"THEN IT HIT ME". What exactly hit you? I was expecting you to describe an epiphany you had and then you go on to describe some shit about race like you do in pretty much all your posts

Can we make a rule that will benefit everyone. For like every 3 threads you start at least 1 has to have absolutely nothing to do with race.
What do you expect? He has a reputation at stake here to uphold.
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A lot of women do not trust Lawyers. All of these professions are good for money, however a lot of them are not good for family. Also an investment banker might be considered cool in NYC, but in Alabama might be to much of a damn Yankee for them.
Why do you not just move to the Northeast or Cali, get a job and date. To be honest with you , I never realized how young you are. I would avoid FSU at such a young age. Regardless of race. Girls there attract to status and wealth. When they date Western guys they generally are looking for guys close to 30 and over. As 20 year old you will basically be competing with young guys who speak the language , understand the humor and have social circle. For college girls social circle is everything. if you are older, you come across as a stable classy guy. But they view young foreigners no different than local young guys. poor, unreliable and childish. That's why that Spartan guy had so much trouble there. You will do best in a western country where you can blend in with people your own age. If you are 20 years old blond ,blue eyes I will say same thing. You are young , move around to larger cities in America ,work your game. Then you can exit.
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(11-08-2012, 05:32 AM)deb auchery Wrote: I have to say Confuclian, you can't blame people for thinking you're a troll. You are absolutely obsessed with your Indian-ness. There are other things you should be concentrating on

it is the main disability I see in terms of stopping me from doing well with women

I feel I am doing well in having other bases covered and I will be going to a new town but it is like I see some glass ceiling with me being Indian

NOW as for what hit me.

Apparently people say Asians and Indians are unsuccessful with women here in America. But women love men who make money. Asian and Indian men make a lot of money, yet they are unsuccessful with women. SOMETHING doesn't add up.
(11-08-2012, 06:55 AM)timmyjack Wrote: A lot of women do not trust Lawyers. All of these professions are good for money, however a lot of them are not good for family. Also an investment banker might be considered cool in NYC, but in Alabama might be to much of a damn Yankee for them.
Why do you not just move to the Northeast or Cali, get a job and date. To be honest with you , I never realized how young you are. I would avoid FSU at such a young age. Regardless of race. Girls there attract to status and wealth. When they date Western guys they generally are looking for guys close to 30 and over. As 20 year old you will basically be competing with young guys who speak the language , understand the humor and have social circle. For college girls social circle is everything. if you are older, you come across as a stable classy guy. But they view young foreigners no different than local young guys. poor, unreliable and childish. That's why that Spartan guy had so much trouble there. You will do best in a western country where you can blend in with people your own age. If you are 20 years old blond ,blue eyes I will say same thing. You are young , move around to larger cities in America ,work your game. Then you can exit.

I read that twice, that is very decent advice, add a reputation point for you.
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11-08-2012, 07:29 AM
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"Apparently people say Asians and Indians are unsuccessful with women here in America. But women love men who make money. Asian and Indian men make a lot of money, yet they are unsuccessful with women. SOMETHING doesn't add up."

Who said that? Just because American is multicultural does not mean all or most people like dating outside their race. not all races find other races attractive. My brother is married to a American Chinese girl. he is attracted to Asians. Unless the Asian girl looks like Nikita,I am neutral towards them.I would not say it makes me racist, I am just not attracted to the look. I also do not attract to most black girls. I also do not like fat girls, so I guess I am racist against the fat race if there was such a thing. I am attracted to Hispanic women who look tan and have long hair, they like me often .In my view they have features that white guys see in white girls, plus the tan. Puerto Ricans seem to like black guys before white guys. These are generalizations.
In my opinion 95% of people in most countries stick to their own race. SEA might be different.This means you will have to look for that 5% who wants another race. By the way, I think a lot of Indian girls are hot, they often do not date outside. The problem isn't the 95% , its you because you got to find the 5%. I bet Northern Europe is only better because the chicks are aggressive enough to show they like you if they are that 5%.I think that 5% exists everywhere, even FSU. But the coldness of FSU girls make it hard.
As for Roosh being successful in Poland.Its because he looked maybe Spanish ,from Spain. In Poland , like most of Western Europe Spaniards, Italians, Greeks are considered white. Its only in FSU where some people are reporting otherwise. I think its bullshit by the way. Deb will tell you Italian friends of his are doing ok. If your skin is darker than Enrique iglesias maybe you are in trouble, but guys like him should do well. Mixx should do alright.I get the feeling you are a white Hispanic.
But listening to the data reports out of Kiev,I am not impressed. It proves its not easy .Guy goes 10 days , spends 200 dollars per day and bangs 3 7's. People praise him. he did well. But is it worth 3k on a trip to bang 7's who really are more like 5-6 in Ukraine ,but certainly a 7 in America?. This is the thing I debate. I think you can get Russian 7's in Miami, Toronto, NYC. You want to try FSU girls find them in America.
To have something good in FSU you need to live there it seems. Deb built up a method and base of operations. He also does not care if its a SNL or not.
In your case I would bang the hot Indian girls in NYU. NYU has loads of them. Maybe move the Hispanic chicks next. I my opinion the normal white girl who race bangs is liberal and a feminist and you will hate her hipster personality anyway. As you know the more conservative a chick is the more she sticks to her own kind, like in the deep south.
Sendhil Ramamurthy has a GQ style that can succeed.I think a lot of those handsome Bollywood stars have looks that can succeed. However, you will often notice they have blue eyes and a more westernized GQ look.


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11-08-2012, 08:51 AM
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RE: Do rich, successful, and educated men struggle a lot with women? (discussion)
Seriously buddy, you are not helping yourself with all these posts you have been submitting and you are in the process of alienating yourself from other forum members. Settle down a bit, read and analyse. You don 't need to verbalise every thought you have on this same subject over and over and over. You don't seem to progress or go anywhere, it 's just variations on the same theme seemingly without end and without any value to the forum. I suggest a period of time reflecting on your behalf before you post again.
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This is why Roosh did not do good,lol
If you look like photo below, you will strike out in FSU and Western society.


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11-08-2012, 09:11 AM
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If White women here in America only went crazy for White men I would not even be that insecure. Yet from the posts I read, women like Sasha Grey are crazy for Black guys and White guys. That is what makes me say WTF.

How is it that Black, Hispanic, and other races of men can have success with attractive women who happen to be White yet you never really hear of that happening with Asian or Indian men?

I am not going to NYU at all, I am already in college and transferring to an SEC school next. Overall though, my area is mostly White, most attractive girls I see are White, and as a result I tend to get frustrated because the ones down here go exclusively for White men and I guess Black men (haven't seen attractive White women date Black men down here though).

My thought is this, if Asian and Indian men are viewed so highly socially, seen as doctors and engineers, then why the hell is it that they can easily get into Harvard and MIT yet fail to land attractive women of other races, especially White?

Regardless, the main issue is this. I have issues unfortunately, I am unsure of myself, and this, THIS insecurity about my race is stopping me from maxing out.

Thing is, I have tried to stop it but somehow I am attracted to White brunettes a lot (and we rarely have asian and latin girls down here, they are in sprinkles). I want to date them but I can't even get myself to approach one because:

1. I have had a bad experience with White women in real life, not rejection and dating wise but just how they have treated me and everyone else around them

2. I feel that I can do well with other races and have but I guess the saying "we want what we can't have applies here". My success has come from Latinas, Arabic/Persian girls, mixed girls, Asian girls, and a lot of Black girls have said they think I am "cute". Yet, the second it comes to White girls, I hit a MAJOR ROADBLOCK. Like what the fuck, is it just the damn south?
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11-08-2012, 09:17 AM
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Are you counting success as when a girl calls you cute? You said you have fucked 2 girls in your life. Get yourself to the phillipines for a while and do something about that number. Maybe that will get you out of your head and stop you from behaving like such a joke.
11-08-2012, 09:34 AM
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(11-08-2012, 09:34 AM)Rick91 Wrote: Are you counting success as when a girl calls you cute? You said you have fucked 2 girls in your life. Get yourself to the phillipines for a while and do something about that number. Maybe that will get you out of your head and stop you from behaving like such a joke.

Well, those 2 could have been a much higher number except

1. I live at home
2. My parents are sometimes on my sh*t, I have to deal with curfews sometimes (one time my dad saw me kissing this one girl at a party and he had to pull me off of her, this is when I was 18)
3. There is little that goes on in my town, everyone my age is just busting their ass to get out

btw, what nationality are you?
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(11-08-2012, 09:17 AM)Confuclican Wrote: If White women here in America only went crazy for White men I would not even be that insecure. Yet from the posts I read, women like Sasha Grey are crazy for Black guys and White guys. That is what makes me say WTF.

How is it that Black, Hispanic, and other races of men can have success with attractive women who happen to be White yet you never really hear of that happening with Asian or Indian men?

I am not going to NYU at all, I am already in college and transferring to an SEC school next. Overall though, my area is mostly White, most attractive girls I see are White, and as a result I tend to get frustrated because the ones down here go exclusively for White men and I guess Black men (haven't seen attractive White women date Black men down here though).

My thought is this, if Asian and Indian men are viewed so highly socially, seen as doctors and engineers, then why the hell is it that they can easily get into Harvard and MIT yet fail to land attractive women of other races, especially White?

Regardless, the main issue is this. I have issues unfortunately, I am unsure of myself, and this, THIS insecurity about my race is stopping me from maxing out.

Thing is, I have tried to stop it but somehow I am attracted to White brunettes a lot (and we rarely have asian and latin girls down here, they are in sprinkles). I want to date them but I can't even get myself to approach one because:

1. I have had a bad experience with White women in real life, not rejection and dating wise but just how they have treated me and everyone else around them

2. I feel that I can do well with other races and have but I guess the saying "we want what we can't have applies here". My success has come from Latinas, Arabic/Persian girls, mixed girls, Asian girls, and a lot of Black girls have said they think I am "cute". Yet, the second it comes to White girls, I hit a MAJOR ROADBLOCK. Like what the fuck, is it just the damn south?
lol, Sasha Grey? Famous people do not count. Besides maybe when she was in porn, they had a few black guys.
Heck if someone rejects me on race ,I do not care, it is not personal. As a white guy only advantage I have is white women. Some light skin Hispanics also ,but that is not the majority and can als obe due t omy dark looks.I can pass as a south American ,although i am white. The black chicks call me hunky,lol .I do not care. Some do like me, but its that 5% I told you about. I am sure 5% of white girls date outside of race. I have seen white girls with Chinese guys before. To be honest black guys are more aggressive and are more likely to hit on white gals than Asians. Also on Avg, women want tall guys, most Asians are shorter than the typical black guy. Did you ever think that's the reason? or the fact that both might be same religion? I know mafia Guido types often do good with Hispanics but I realize they both share same religion.I think most successful Asians do not have much in common with most white chicks. White chicks stay away from math, science and engineering. Actually most white American chicks are dumb fucks ,majoring in nonsense,lol. Become christian,go to church, I bet you meet some white meat. In the deep south , I am white and I bet most chicks will avoid me due to my last name. Bible belt is not a good example.
I am kind of tired of the race issues. There are 1000 reasons Sasha Grey will not date me. I do not have the time to figure it out.

11-08-2012, 09:41 AM
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The 5%?

That is the thing, if we are talking the hipster, feminist, etc. Then I am not interested.

Also, I am 6 ft tall so height isn't the issue for me man.
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(11-08-2012, 10:13 AM)deb auchery Wrote:
(11-08-2012, 09:11 AM)timmyjack Wrote: This is why Roosh did not do good,lol
If you look like photo below, you will strike out in FSU and Western society.

This guy is way too Alpha for Roosh!

lol, true
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